Reader comments: Obama introduces running mate Biden

181 comments  |  Read story

Page: 1 2 3 4
I have a question - | 7:16 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
is Biden articulate and clean?
Anon | 7:49 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
I thinks its funny that Obama picked and old white guy. Isn't that what McCain is?? Just wondering
Not Surprised | 7:52 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Wow! An inexperienced politician who can only attack his rival with a series of baseless half-truths pairing with the quintessential Washington insider certainly seems par for the course.

And I thought this campaign was supposed to be about "change". Instead, Obama has proven himself to be just a typical power-hungry politician. Shocking? No.

We should have nominated Hillary Clinton. In four years when we look back Obama will just be the latest in a line of ... Dukakis, Gore, Kerry ...
Comments continue below
Mahershalalhashbaz | 7:56 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Another liar. I just watched on the news a couple days ago Biden telling the media as he got into his car he was not chosen. Bird brains of a feather flock together.
Alex | 7:57 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Why, Barack? Why? You want "change" so you go and choose a six-term senator who is the definition of a shmucky Washington politician. I think I am going to be sick....
"Change you can believe in" | 8:26 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Real change - someone who's been a fixture in Washington for decades. Call me a believer.
JMT | 8:28 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
We should remember that Biden not only plagarized a speech during his failed Presidential run but he also lifted a Masters degree. He claimed to have a Masters degree, that upon further review he never earned. I believe he enrolled for the program but disenrolled before it began, never took a day of instruction but claimed on his bio that he earned the degree. When this came out the media covered it and he had to withdraw.

It should be noted that the Democrats feel they need the Catholic vote to win, Biden being Catholic. It should also be noted that the Democrats are losing the Catholic vote primarily over their constant attacks on religion and support of abortion. The Pope kind of likes religion and feels abortion is wrong. Catholic members follow the lead. Throw in that Democrats support the ghastly Partial-birth abortion practice and Obama supported infintacide as an Illinois State Senator, I doubt they get the Catholic vote.

I also recognize that many Democrats do not support infintacide or partial-birth abortion. This is more true in Utah but at the national level the Democratic party supports abortion on demand as a rule of thumb. Disgusting!
cyclops | 8:31 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
well, the best of luck to them and it's gonna be interesting to see if Biden will act the part and let Obama be the decision maker here.
obama rocks | 8:32 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Good job Barack! Obama well win
Now we know | 8:34 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Now we have faces for both tweedledee and tweedledumb.
"Change you can believe in" | 8:39 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Wow, that's Real change - someone who's been a fixture in Washington for decades. Call me a believer.
Peggy Noonan on Biden | 8:53 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
As he speaks, as he goes on and on and spins his long statements, hypotheticals, and free associations--as he demonstrates yet again . . . that he is incapable of staying on the river of a thought, and is constantly lured down tributaries from which he can never quite work his way back--you can see him batting the little paddles of his mind against the weeds, trying desperately to return to the river but not remembering where it is, or where it was going. I love him. He's human, like a garrulous uncle after a drink.
Himself | 9:01 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Peggy Noonan : "I love him".
Dooku | 9:04 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Now we know who is going to take the blunt blows and shield Obama from old timers GOP senators etc, when verbal bullets started flying.

I can't wait for the real match to proceed.
boat sunk | 9:08 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
This only exasperates Obamas image as far left and inexperienced. McCain will win based upone the Deomcratic penchant for self-destruction
What? | 9:11 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Obama has friends like Write, Fleggar [sic] and Ayres and now picks a known plagiarist for his running mate? What's next? The real idiocy of the dems are showing by picking this guy as their man...." Change You Can Believe In" is nothing more than a slick con line.
Get Over It | 9:17 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
You Republicans have had your chance and shown what the average tax payer means in your grand scheme of politics. Speaking of experience--just how much did the Bush-Wacker have for his office 8 years ago? Where are we today over all economy, energy, financially, world respect wise? Right-in the gutter because of a decieving, lying, cheating administration that for 8 years has run our beautiful country right into the ground. You backers of the Wacker and Darth Vader should be proud of your party. Thanks SMUCKS.
Ryan Larsen | 9:19 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Biden would get smashed in a debate against Romney.
Obama is a fool.... | 9:31 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Now I know my vote is worthless. I was going to vote for Obama but now, I may as well vote for McBush. Better yet, I will vote for local issues and abstain my presidential vote. Thanks for the "change" Obama. You just proved your lie.
wayne | 9:36 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
so he made his choice. and now we have the hollowman and the angery man. Obama missed a chance to center his campain with a center leaning VP. biden is far left of that.

so we are now left with the canidate who has been marketed as a unifier but his record shows he is the #1 liberal in congress and no experance of working accross with republicans. so his chose biden as his runnig mate. oh did I mention that he is also one of the top ten liberals in congress.

the real question is will biden help. no. obama
needed to reach out to the center. with a Richerdson. someone like Richardson would have been a smart move. and would have gained some middle ground. middle ground is not what biden is nor will he gain votes.

wow we had to wait alday saterday for this?

good thing we have another choice. that is not a ringing indorsement of mccain but, he no matter who his VP is will be will take a course correction and not a sudden shift. he may not even need romney but romney would help him win.
disappointed | 9:36 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
I registered and voted in the primary election for "Change you can Believe in". Now Obama goes and picks a 30 year washington politician" was there no state governor that was Qualified? This is not chnage it is the same old crud we always get from politicians.

I do not think I'll be voting this November because it appears that it will just be the same old thing as always so what does it matter, it just a waste of my time.
Change? | 9:42 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
He calls for change and he picks a Washington Dinosaur. So much for demonstrating change.
Puppets | 9:44 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
This present administrtion has been manipulated like puppets by big business for 8 years now. And now you big Reds want the rest of us to believe that your new man McDuff is not more of the same? He is exactly like a puppet on a string from the way he moves to what he is told to say. McDuff and Bush-Wacker were made by the same designer and put up on their little stage suspended by strings and controlled by the GREEDY creeps above them. That is all going to change real quick donkeys(mules). Now is the time voters, throw out ALL of the incumbents and lets get a FRESH start.
in your dreams | 9:47 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Biden would tear Romney into tiny little pieces (that is, if McCain is stupid enough to pick him).
To Get Over It 9:17 | 9:51 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Well, the Bush Wacker inherited the 8 years of Clinton flailing around on terrorism and his decimation of the military. Since 9/11 (8 months afte Bush took office - in planning for several years of the Clinton administration) we've not had an attack on American soil. We've prosecuted 2 difficult but successful wars. Are there still major problems there? yep - but don't forget the Afganistan beat the Soviet Union. And please don't give Bush all the credit for our domestic issues - that's just being way too nice to the Democratic Congress we've got. I'm not all that happy about Bush's domestic performance either, but people who blame him for everything seem to forget he's only one part of the government. He's not an all-powerful monarch.

As to the average taxpayer - just what do you think is going to happen to Joe Shmoe when we elect Obama? Taxes are going to double and the economy is going to tip right over the edge into oblivion.
Don't Bet On It Ryan | 9:54 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
You Utah Mormons think the sun rises and sets in Romney. Well guess what it doesn't. And to Ryan I would relish the day that your good ole boy Romney had a debate with Biden. He wouldn't even be a good appetizer for him let alone a meal. Smily Romney would get his head and lunch handed to him. Old slick Romney isn't as pure and clean as some of you sheep think.
Madden | 9:54 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
More proof that Obama is about following polls (foolishly) to try and win it. If he stuck with his principles he would take this thing in a blowout. As we go along, he exposes himself as just another run of the mill politician.

Too bad we have been left, once again, with no good choices to lead the country. Can somebody please show me a silver lining? Talk me off the edge here.
Richie | 9:55 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Was Biden part of the original group that wrote the Constitution or does he appear to have been around forever. Just another reason for term limitation.
RE: Get Over It | 9:55 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Oh, That started with Bill Clinton...the demise of the country. And more recently the Damocrats in Congress and Senate. Where is the change that was promised in 2006?
To Puppets | 9:58 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Oh please. Greedy Business - OH NO! Get over yourself. Who do you suppose creates all the jobs in this country - Business. Yes, the government creates plenty - paid for by the taxes taken from Business - because even your income taxes came from your salary paid by Business. This country was built by entrepreneurs, whether the small farmer or Rockefeller and Carnegie and Gates. Go read Ayn Rand.

I don't know what McCain will do as president - but he's never been a crowd follower. Obama is going to do his best to drag us as far to the left as possible - and I don't want to go there.
Marilyn Rupper RVing America | 10:03 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Biden have spent half his life in the Senate. Now that's real CHANGE.
From an outsider | 10:07 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Wow. I'm not a Utahn, but was checking several papers about Obama's pick. You guys really are a piece of neoconservative work. The last place in the country that would still defend Bush the crook and use "liberal" as an insult. Biden is very moderate in terms of working with both parties. He is well respected by both Democrat and Rebuplican senators.

For you "former" Obama supporters. Obama just couldn't win could he? If he picked somebody young and new we would hear more of the "inexperienced", "not ready" garbage. If he picks somebody that has experience gallore, then we hear, "what about change". Biden was a great pick. He has more experience than McCain or Clinton, and works very well with people from both parties and from other countries. Did Georgia's president ask him to come because Georgia's president is a super liberal? You people need to realize that moderate is still way left of where most of you people are, so it just looks left to you.
Death Nell for Cutie | 10:08 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
So all of the speculation and hooplah and endless gushing turns now into reality. I'm afraid the midnight hour has struck and Cinderfella is turning into a pumpkin. Just another retread politician.
wrz | 10:11 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
I have a question - | 7:16

"is Biden articulate and clean?"

Yes, but he's not a "good looking guy."
Re from an outsider | 10:16 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
I wholeheartedly agree with every word you said. Obama can do no right in this state. If he chose young, then he chose more inexperience. If he chose old, he's lying about change.

McBush, however, can do no wrong. Never mind what his mom said about Mormons, while he laughed in the background. Never mind that he purposefully and intentionally threw the vote to Huckabee in West Virginia to keep Romney from winning the state. He's conservative, so he may as well get the next GA opening.

Just as Obama did not pick Hillary as his running mate, so McBush will not pick Romney. The amount of self-delusion surrounding the GOP Veep is alarming.
Change? | 10:18 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Well, I guess there won't be any change now. Biden is about as fresh as moldy cheese. I guess the GOP will have this one wrapped up in November.
somewhat cynical | 10:22 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
I am grateful to Mr. Obama for knocking Hillary Clinton out of the race. However, picking someone like Joe Biden insures that I will not vote for him in November. The country has never needed a viable third party candidate more than we do now.
I can't support either Obama or McCain.
Biden? | 10:24 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
That guy is older then water...
Steve G | 10:36 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Obama is an empty suit! That is why he picked Joe "full-of-himself" Biden. These may be the two most arrogant men in the Senate - and there are many.
Mark B | 10:38 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
I have to go with outsider (10:07). No one in the current administration, and that includes Condi, whose Russian "expertise" seems to have been oversold all along, knows more about foreign affairs than Biden. He's an asset, no question. And though it may not happen, I would not bet against Biden if it came to debating Romney, either. All you people who've never set foot outside of Payson are going to be surprised.
wrz | 10:40 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
From an outsider | 10:07:

"Biden was a great pick."

Hillary would have been a better pick.... a winning pick. And B. Hussein Obama woulda gotten a very popular former president with the deal.

Hillery must be extremely distraught over this. She worked her butt off and came away with nothing. In eight years she will be too old to run for president. Perhaps she will get a consolation prize such as Secretary of State or something.
MEB | 10:42 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
@re: from an outsider.

What is Obama's message anyway? Change. The whole pitch from Obama supporters is that experience isn't necessary, and besides - Obama has plenty, right? So, why would he go off and try to defend his lack of experience by picking an experienced insider?

This pick ruins both his message about change AND his message about the need for experience!

I agree Wayne - Obama should have picked someone like Richardson.

First major decision and he blows it. Precursor of things to come??
Grimble | 10:48 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
People here are ragging on Biden, but I haven't seen a single thing about his actual record -- I suspect most of the haters here know anything about him other than that he's been in the Senate for a while.

I think Utahns will warm to him, even if they can't bring themselves to vote for a Dem. Biden is very much a family man, he commutes home on the train every night rather than keeping an apartment in D.C., he's got a son in the military getting ready for deployment to Iraq, he's been crucial to some very important bi-partisan legislation on drug policy, domestic violence, and education, and of case he's one of the most capable foreign policy wonks in Washington. The most dirt anybody seems to be able to find on him is some borrowed text in a speech 20 years ago (which is probably off-limits this cycle, since McCain stole prose from Wikipedia on Georgia).

To me, the most important thing about Biden is that he is not afraid to call out anybody's B.S. He's proven it time and time again in committee hearings and debates.

(BTW, Biden would CREAM Romney in a debate.)
Anonymous | 10:51 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
You Uthans are really a piece of work. Obama could have picked Thomas S. Monson as his running mate and you people would still be here complaining. The Republican party is just that; a political party, not a cult.

Oh, and now I hope McCain picks Romney; Biden would obliterate him in a debate.
Grimble | 10:52 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Hey Mark B,

"All you people who've never set foot outside of Payson are going to be surprised."

As a resident of Payson who is beside myself with excitement over the prospect of an Obama/Biden ticket (and, if I may say so myself, predicted it months ago), I take personal umbrage at that statement.

Couldn't you have picked a different podunk town? Tooele, maybe? :)
Anonymous | 11:06 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Rush tells his flock:"you can't prove a negative." There have been no terrorist attacks. How can you ascribe Bush as the causation? It could be terrorist benefit from having Bush as a recruitment tool.

I'm not big no Obama or Biden. Being a liberal I don't have to march in a political cadence. Voting for Bush made Obama electable. Voting for Obama is away to hold conservatives accountable and made a positive statement to end conservative lies and use of hated as a motivator to blind their flock.
to wrz 10:40 | 11:11 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
What is the purpose of calling Mr Obama "B. Hussein Obama"? Really. Do we call John McCain by his middle name? How about Romney? Hillary? George Bush?

The only reason I can see for doing so is to emphasize that his middle name happens to coincide with the last name of a dead Middle Eastern dictator. So what are you trying to say? If my middle name is Smith am I related to the prophet Joseph? And if I am, does that somehow make me a viable/nonviable candidate for the presidency? What's your point?

It seems to me the only logical thing to infer is that you are a bigot. Care to defend this claim?
Bill Aires | 11:16 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
In 1970 when I returned from Vietnam to be Honorably discharged at Travis AFB CA.,We were told to ware civilian clothes because the weather underground were throwing blood on sevicemen around the airport. We still had shorthair, so fortunately that day thet just spat at us. Bill Aires and his wife are friends with Obama.
The B.O. Ticket | 11:28 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
Ha Ha Ha

Forget the Obama Bin Biden references. I like the "Stinky B.O. Ticket."

He forges a degree? Tells everyone he won't be VP? It is a strange country where honest and legal citizens of over 40 years can't run based on their country of birth, but US born liars, Communists, and plagiarists are always welcome.

Romney wicked smart humor and incredible knowledge base will mop this guy up in the debates.

Change? (Laugh)

Go B.O. Go! (Laugh)
Re:to wrz | 11:35 a.m. Aug. 23, 2008
I agree with you....if we are going to call people by their middle name it is nothing but a "BIGOT PLAY"!

We should ASSOCIATE Barry NObama by the people he associates with like :::

BARACK "RESKO" OBAMA!

Tony Resko is a Felon best friend of Obama, and bought Barack and Michelle a million dollar house!
Page: 1 2 3 4

Add your comment

Comments are monitored. Any comments found to be abusive, offensive, off-topic, misrepresentative, more than 200 words or containing URLs will not be posted.

Words Remaining

E-mail address: For internal use only. We may want to contact you to publish your comment (not your e-mail address) in the newspaper or for a separate story idea.

Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, right, is Barack Obama's pick as vice presidential running mate. (Charles Rex Arbogast, Associated Press)
Charles Rex Arbogast, Associated Press
Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, right, is Barack Obama's pick as vice presidential running mate.